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Boosting the Signal

Just so you folks know, I sent this email to the Wikimedia Foundation earlier tonight.

To Whom It May Concern,

This year, for the first time, I donated money to support the Wikimedia Foundation, and I thought I had done a good thing in doing so.

However, the recent news that your Arbitration Committee has made a decision to permanently ban five writers and editors, in response to pressure from members of the so-called Gamergate community, has decreased my respect for, and confidence in, your organization and its policies.

I hope someday to be able to donate to your organization again. For now, however, I join other members of the Internet community in saying that, until you fix Wikipedia's systemic bias against women, you will not get another penny from me.

And please do not indulge in the traditional defense of the disingenuous and cowardly; do not say, "We are not responsible." Of course you are, because you are financing and supporting the toxic atmosphere of its administrative and cultural infrastructure.

The buck stops with you.

Most sincerely,
Kathryn J. Routliffe

With many thanks to [personal profile] kerravonsen 


Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 11:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
Every time I have the misfortune to hear the word 'Gamergate' I throw up in my mouth a little. Very sad to find that you don't. That is all.

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 11:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
No time for a proper reply right now (probably tomorrow morning, if I meet the latest deadline before then), but I just have to say that I just noticed the icon you used for this post and I am...well...'offended' isn't too strong a word. Because, oh the irony, before I opened this page and saw that icon I was about to leave you with a tiny RL tale that I thought might puzzle you but which I see as relevant. So fuck it, I'll tell you anyway:

Once upon a time, I had a long love affair with one of the great loves of my life so far, full of love and full of sex and full of music made together and separately. He's dead now, but that doesn't take away any history nor any memories of him.

A couple of days ago, as I was on my way to work, a young man got on my train carriage, sat down opposite me, smiled a beautiful smile and then turned to watch the world go by out the window. And after a few moments of whatisitwhatisitwhatisitthere'ssomethingwhatisit brain-racing, I actually shuddered with the strength of my astonishment - because this young stranger looked enough like my long-gone darling to be his twin - and I suddenly realised, for the first time in forty-five years, that my long-gone darling, so familiar to my eyes and lips and heart and hands... my long-gone darling, who I'd known and adored in every aspect of his form and features...

...wasn't what the world calls white.

Cue slightly blown mind. Then I filed this in the same mental folder with my astonishment on finding out a few years ago that one of my closest currently living friends is half-Indian, and that another dear friend, sadly long dead, was 100 per cent North American aboriginal, and that a colleague I worked with for years was mildly (but apparently, obviously to everyone else) crippled. And so on.

It's not that I don't notice, exactly; it's just that these things are so much a part of a particular friend or lover or colleague that they have no separate meaning to me.

There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in the (assuredly well-meaning but generally foolishly tunnel-visioned and often far too screechy) philosophies of internet activists, it would seem :-)

Back later!

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 03:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] owlboy

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 04:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
Nah, trufax.

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 09:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
Ah, is that what it is. I had no idea! And you won't be surprised to learn that I had to wiki 'Brady Bunch' - never heard of it o_0

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 09:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
Sounds awful - but then, most telly is :P

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
Yes - and here I am making an even faster reply (owing to sleep-in caused by illness, still not finished with review-for-pay thingummy, gah), which will amuse you when you do get a chance to read the PM, but I want it known here on the page that you are indeed among the very, very few people I 'know' via aetherspace who are welcome to visit me in the real world. And I truly mean that. Whether or not the universe would explode in the moment of our meeting is another matter entirely :D

FWIW it irritates me to feck that I so often seem to end up in bed with the Ukippers and white supremacists and, yes, racism deniers of the world even though I am NOTHING LIKE the Ukippers and white supremacists and racism deniers of the world. Maybe I should start a Respect for Outliers movement :P :P :P

Of course, as you know, I am a racist though: I am deeply prejudiced against and hateful towards the race known as humanity. I'd say I'm hoping for the next big rock to come wipe out our species, but a mega-plague specific only to our own variety of ape would be favourite because there's no need for other, far more innocent and non-toxic, species to suffer! Especially orangutans. And maybe bonobos.

And now back to the grind...

Date: Wednesday, 28 January 2015 01:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanghaied
I'm sorry that you're ill, I hope it's a temporary attack, and I hope you get the energy to finish the review for pay thing.

It's mostly that my boring chronic immune disorder wotsit has been partying hard all over me, but this time it's a real E/N/T bug. 'twill pass, but it's meant more fall-over and more time lost to having to sleep. Ho hum. Am actually very much enjoying writing this review, but it involves a lot of time-consuming research as it's a nonfiction thing.

Not before we had a cuppa/joint martinis/damn fine coffee, and maybe a good steak. Or lamb? I make a pretty good curry, and my Nana brought me up to like lamb curry ....

Cuppa and camelburgers, perhaps? With liqueur muscat for afters? I've never really come to terms with red meat - it's something I keep trying to convince myself I like, but I truly don't - but so far, camel and roo (and a spot of Bambi once every year or two) are all I can put up with.

And if we haven't chased each other off yet, then that's good.

Unlikely to happen, since you too are a rare outpost of actual!sentient!brainmeats! :D

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessalrynn.livejournal.com
Journalism doesn't come from a machine, it comes from a person. As a result, there will always be a "slant". That's the point of choosing your information source or using multiple sources. There are biases, there are angles, there are various ways of looking at a single situation.

Wikipedia is meant to be a collection destination for a million points of information. Everyone is meant to be able to contribute to, and provide compliment for, its content. People who want to pick and choose what's allowed on Wikipedia should be limited to whether the statement is a fact or not, and be done with it. Hell, Wikipedia doesn't even require relevant facts in hundreds of articles, why should an alleged gender or even cultural bias be a problem for them. They are NOT a credible source. They're meant to be the beginning of knowledge, like a grade school text book, and people should choose from there.

Therefore banning people who provide to the collective body of knowledge is wrong.

Thanks for sharing this.

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cygnia.livejournal.com
Thank you for this.

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
VERY well done you! I've only recently started reading up on so-called Gamergate, and I've been appalled by what I found. Ironically, Wikipedia's article on the controversy does actually lean towards seeing it as a blatantly sexist campaign leading to outright acts of violence against women, and in general does not support the claim that it's about so-called 'ethics in journalism'. And Wikimedia does this?

Icon aimed at misogynistic media organisations and people.

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 04:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clocketpatch
I have nothing intelligent to say, just a resounding face!palm and a very loud Urg.

Date: Monday, 26 January 2015 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namarie24.livejournal.com
I didn't know about this. It makes me angry and sad.

Thanks for posting this.

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erikvolson.livejournal.com
A staggeringly stupid decision. But Wikipedia is so self involved that they may not even be aware of the issue.

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
This is disgusting - and kudos to you for informing them of their error and said consequences. I have a feeling (just from Andy's article) that you will not be the only one.

Gamergate was a sheer horror. The mysogynstic, narrow-minded and violent outpourings towards women and certain ones who chose to speak out was appalling and frightening: so of course the answer is to rid themselves of 'all feminists en bloc' and 'social justice warriors'. As a gamer and as someone who happens to be a woman, the whole thing was enraging. I wish I could say it was shocking, but in this day in age, even awareness of bad behavior does little to deter it. Quite the opposite in fact. These people acted as if someone was taking their lolly away and the gruesome and terrifying response pissed me off.

Quite frankly, WP siding with the knuckle-draggers doesn't surprise me. I've never gone out of my way to use the site, being well aware of the misinformation and nasty internal rumblings. They are actually the LAST site I ever resource from. Looks like I won't be hitting them again anytime soon, as being a female, my thoughts, input and ideas are obviously not needed - nor my interest necessary - to their site in the first place.

I'm sorry, was that 'catty'? That was 'catty' I'm sure. MEH.

Oh!! Came across this. I don't know how you feel about FOX, but I thought you might enjoy this from a journalistic POV no matter what: High Schoolers and Journalistic Ethics

*SQUISHES YOU TIGHT*

Date: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com
Urgh, this stuff is disgusting. Thanks for sharing and speaking out, dear. ♥

Date: Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com
Always with the media disappointments… *sighs*

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